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Old 07-10-2007, 08:21 AM
KampfHase KampfHase is offline
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Default Re: Was I justified or out of line

Hi there [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

Robert says:
"1. To win any part of a pot, a player must show all of his cards faceup on the table, whether they were used in the final hand played or not."

Additionally:
"5. Any player who has been dealt in may request to see any hand that has been called, even if the opponent's hand or the winning hand has been mucked. However, this is a privilege that may be revoked if abused. If a player other than the pot winner asks to see a hand that has been folded, that hand is dead. If the winning player asks to see a losing player’s hand, both hands are live, and the best hand wins."

So, I totally agree with you [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

However, if you insist on a certain ruling on a justified ground (such as, an agreement among friends, or RRoP), try to keep it objective. There was no need to call the guy nasty names.

Btw, did you talk about RRoP with the group? It seems as if the guy wasn't aware that this rule exists.
It is very important (especially among friends) to study the rules together, so that there won't be any uncomfortable situation, or surprises when a ruling has to be made which costs the guy who was wrong the pot.

Just as a side note, I am sick of this "Hey, we r buds and it's a home game, so relax..."!!! There are rules in every game that are to be met to provide for a fair game and a comfortable atmosphere. If everybody sticks to the rules there won't be any quarrels about it. Of course you will have to vote on each rule individually in a home game whether this or that rule should be used or not. Robert's provides a well thought ground on which rules can be selected etc.
My experience tells me that quarrels always arise if there was no ruling determined in advance, or if someone didn't read the acknowledged rules thoroughly. In your case, this guy "mucked" his right to claim the pot by throwing one card away, because he wasn't aware of this rule. So, he's wrong, not you. (You are of course wrong in calling him nasty names; you said so yourself.)

I constantly run into quarrels myself with some of my buds, because they do not read the rules, or do not even care about them. This sucks. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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