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Old 07-06-2007, 07:29 AM
Kost Kost is offline
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Default 50NL - 14 outer: Push or call?

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

BB ($50)
Hero ($50.70)
MP ($48)
CO ($19.10)
Button ($56.45)
SB ($59.35)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $1.75</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to $3.25</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls $1.25.

Flop: ($6.75) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $6.5</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero???</font>


I got no reads.


The question is: How do you generally play these kind of draws?

I guess I always tend to get all my money in on the flop when I have, or think I have, 14 outs. I don't try to put my opponent any hands, I don't have consider reads or think about the odds for him folding if I raise. I just go like this "14 outs! Here we go! All in!" and I'm pretty sure it's wrong to think like this. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]


One more thing:
Pokertracker made me a 51.16% favourite with 14 outs on the flop and 48.10% dog with 13 outs on the flop (which I actually had in this hand).

The Cardplayer calculator made me a 45.25% dog on the flop.

I'll guess the cardplayer calculator is more accurate, right?


So, how do you think and what do you consider when you flop a 14 outer?
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