[Joe Tall]

I have felt this from the beginning of this discussion with DD that morning: it doesn't really matter gents. It's stylistic, pure choice on how much variance you want to absorb.

I'm getting 4.5:1 with cold-23% equity and no worries about meta-game situations. That's about break even as it gets with the button in a live game. In my opinion, this argument is simply, "how much variance do you want to absorb?" and most of the long discussions like this are about thin EV situations. My style is less variant, DD is of higher variance.

The SB called DD's 4-bet and had A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] in this hand, DD had black-44. The flop came 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], the SB checked, DD bet, SB called. The turn was 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], check, bet, call, the river was 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], check, DD bet, the SB turned his hand up and said, "I really want to call but I think you have it this time," delayed a bit longer and folded where DD showed 44.

But if DD can make the 44 fold, and I can call/cap with the 97s just one time in the future when it's "right", this thread it worth a ton to me. That's why I post here, to find that one time, one spot, where I sprinkle a little DD/Mike L into my game.

This conversation carried over to the car ride home where I said to DD, "you cut yourself off at 44 there but you know 22-44 are the same equity-wise." and he said, "I dont care if 44 is or not, I can play 44 there but not 22-33."

And I said, all props to Tommy, which sums up this thread, "That's a perfect answer because we all play poker the same way, our own way." I keep growing my way all the time. Thanks guys for an interesting thread.