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So no to this?
But yes to this?
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No to both, actually, but the pastel tie clearly clashes with the shirt and is much much worse.
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I'm not really crazy about either of those ties myself. Curious what you guys think would be a great tie choice for shirt #2. Examples? I have little talent for matching ties with shirts.
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If you have little talent for matching ties with shirts, I think a good rule is to not be ambitious. There are some fashion matches that only come together after you think about them for a while. But they're not initially pleasing to the eye. Get a designer, and he may tell you that they're correct or even inspired. But few people will see things with that kind of eye, and more important, few people will really appreciate a match that seems clusmy or clashing until further scholarly review.
In general, if you want to look good, I'd suggest it not be a post-doctoral project, but something that actually sways someone besides yourself and maybe some pantheon of swishy fashion gods.
So, keep it simple. If you have a patterned shirt, see if you can set it off with simplicity instead of similarly or even more complex patterns. If you have a plain shirt, go for something that seems interesting because you can see at a glance how it melds so well into the whole even if it is a bit of a surprising choice, rather than something that only seems okay after hashing it out a lot before a panel of neutral arbitrators. You don't win appeal with intellect.