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Old 06-22-2007, 01:43 PM
Hair_of_the_Dog Hair_of_the_Dog is offline
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Default Re: 8c 6c on the button

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checks obv

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check and it's not close.

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I think this is why someone once told me that having position on your opponents was good.

Check.

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* grunch *

I take the free card here every time. Nice job on raising the flop for it as well as for equity but on the turn you've got absolutely nothing and it's unlikely you're going to fold 3 other players.

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I'm guessing your question revolves more around pot equity than folding equity or the like (of which you have zero). Assuming that you are holding the best flush draw, a bet here would have neutral equity if all 3 opponents call again. Yes, you picked up a gutshot, but it's to the ass end and I wouldn't even factor that into the equation; make the Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] a 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] and then we have a value bet.

All that said, I think this is a pretty textbook example of when to take your free card. It's not hardly certain that nobody else has a higher flush draw, while not likely it is possible that someone's getting ready for a check/raise, and as I said, you are never going to get all 3 opponents to fold by firing two more barrels. So you don't have enough pot equity to bet your draw, and you don't have enough folding equity to semibluff...check it through.

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Any other opinions?

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betting again on the turn is retarded.

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[img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] This makes me feel good about getting advice (about small stakes holdem that is) from you guys. I'm glad that you found it obvious.

Nice work!
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