[Guruman]

jazz,

another smallish pattern i've detected from these types of players (and this last one in particular) is the tendancy to not start bluffing until after I do. this generally means that checking doesnt induce bluffs, betting does. The disadvantage is that I need to actually make a hand to exploit this, which i'm bad at. The further disadvantage is that I miss value with weak made hands because they don't bluff at them as much when I check to induce. Additionally, it allows them to play faster with more marginally made hands like mid pair and to do so safely because I'll end up showing down a slightly worse range.

Once I play a session vs one of these guys where I'm even remotely happy with my play I'll post it up for critique.

thx for the thoughts on this. I feel I have a lot to learn from getting beaten in this way, and that I should be picking up tricks if they're out there.