[Zetack]

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Now, just because you called or raised the flop does not mean that you will necessarily show the hand down. ... there is no rule that says that if you call the flop, you have committed to calling two more big bets.



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majorkong, I think your advice is spot on and belaboring this particular example isn't important to the advice....nevertheless I'm gonna do it simply because I think its an interesting example (heck, or maybe I'm just a jerk, kinda hard to tell...)

Calling one small bet on the flop with the 10.5-1 the pot is laying you and the top pair does lead you to three positive posibilities. 1). You hit two pair on the turn. 2). You pick up a flush draw on the turn. 3). You pick up nothing but the blind and middle player both check to you.

Also, you can still fold here with three big bets in and save four more, if the play seems to indicate that.

I just didn't think that it would be your advice to consider folding to one bet on the turn based on:
"you fold too damn much"
"did I mention that you have top frickin pair? "
and: "you should NOT be looking to fold in big pots"

And I thought the way you phrased your advice could lead to too much chasing. I loooove players who time after time turn over ace-weak kicker.

So having quibled this thing to death (sorry about that), still a great post majorkong.

--Zetack

P.S.
My girlfriend, when I told her about this thread said, "Gee, you complain frequently when you don't get enough action on your big hands....maybe he's trying to to drum up action...."

Now that made me laugh.