[Rick Nebiolo]

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Also, this breaks the one player to a hand rule in a big way because another player is the one that spoke up about the lady being the winner of the pot. It says she just flashes a card, which is different than tabeling the hand then getting the cards mucked accidentally. That would be no different than a player looking at his hand in omaha h/l, not knowing he has a low, and another player saying something like... oh you have a eighty-five low then the player tabeling the hand for half the pot.

This should probably be a dead hand every time.

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Regarding your later point either I misread or perhaps you have two harsh an interpretation of when "one player to a hand trumps "cards speak".

For example if a player appears to not know he has the pot (or in your O/8 example the low half) and gets help while holding his cards up how does a competent floor know he wouldn't have eventually figured it out before tossing his hand in? His hand shouldn't be ruled dead in this case.

Now let's say the player looked for this sort of commiseration from a neighbor and then tossed his hand forward and face down toward the muck (assuming all action is complete) and then the neighbor tells him he had a low/back door flush/straight whatever and the player now retrieves it while it's still discernible. Here we have quite a different situation. That hand should be ruled dead by a reasonable floor (thinking that it would be highly unlikely that the player would have retrieved the hand on its own).

~ Rick