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Old 06-12-2007, 05:28 AM
Gonso Gonso is offline
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Default Re: Cover Design Contest

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Hi Gonso,

Nice improvements. I can't help but notice, however, a striking similarity between Roxy's title text and your title text. Both have "Professional" styled the same: on a separate line from "NLHE", with the same font as "NLHE", a smaller size than "NLHE", and left-aligned with "NLHE". Both have "Volume X" off to the right in a script-style font. Both have "Volume X" slightly overlapping with "NLHE".


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Bozman, I'm glad you finally posted again because there seems to be a couple issues we need to address.

I've obviously participated and monitored this thread since it began, and from the beginning you've repeatedly shown nothing but praise for Roxy's designs - not just once, but numerous times throughout the thread. Gelford said something about her design you didn't like, you were on it. Any mention or compliment of someone else's covers was always qualified, but obviously you're very partial to Roxy's designs.

Then you make a pretty not-so-subtle stab at my cover (if not me personally) here, all but saying I'm ripping Roxy off, so let's take a closer look and I'll address it:

I can't help but notice, however, a striking similarity between Roxy's title text and your title text. Both have "Professional" styled the same: on a separate line from "NLHE",

That seems fair, but from the outset I was clear several times that fitting it all onto one line wasn't working well. A multi-line option was all you could really do if you wanted a legibile title, and breaking it up into more than two lines looks awful. So I suppose you'd rather I break it up some other way.

with the same font as "NLHE"

It's not even remotely the same font, I mean look at it.

a smaller size than "NLHE"

When there was a subtitle originally, it appeared on my cover in a smaller size font then the main title, prior to ANY other submission. This is so rediculously common though... we're trying to fit text to make it look pleasing to the eye, and you have to adjust sizes to do that.

and left-aligned with "NLHE".

At least this is correct, but then there's only a few ways you can align text like this... left, centered, or to the right. Right looks dumb, and centered didn't look good.

Both have "Volume X" off to the right in a script-style font. Both have "Volume X" slightly overlapping with "NLHE".

This idea also originated in one of my drafts, not Roxy's. If you go back, I had a right-aligned, script-styled "Volume X" that appeared on the spine. It was also on the cover, only there it was separate from the main title.

Also, did you notice Larrando also wound up with a similar title layout? Did you ever think we all might have had the same layout problems?

There are a number of other similarities between our designs also, you know. Different face card designs on each cover (I abandoned the queen design), translucent card images and card suits implemented into the background, don't forget the bordered see-through windows on the back cover, then there's the arrangement and location of the authors names on the front cover, and now the arrangement of the authors names on the spine also... should I go on? Did you miss all of these?

Now, I don't know what your deal is... maybe you're trying to play White Knight to get the attention of random girl online, or maybe Roxy's actually your gimmick account (I don't know). Hey, maybe you just really like her design and it's honest... but I put a lot of time an effort into trying to make an original, unique design for my submission. Despite doing just that, and then seeing a lot of my elements appear in other work, I now have to hear this...