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HOWMANY · #2 06-11-2007, 09:00 PM

HOW THE [censored] DO PEOPLE PLAY NO LIMIT. I JUST FINISHED A 6 TABLING SESSION OF 1/2 AND I WANT TO [censored] KILL MYSELF. GET AA 3 TIMES, FOLD TO ME IN BB ONCE, THEN THESE TWO HAPPEN. THEN I C/R PUSH A FLUSH DRAW AFTER NOT PLAYING A HAND PAST THE FLOP IN AN HOUR ON A TABLE AND THE TIGHT GUY CALLS WITH ONE PAIR. HAS HE NOT READ HOYLE DUNSONS BOOK, YOU ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO GO BROKE WITH ONE PAIR. The one set I flopped turn out really well, falling to TPNK backdooring a flush then checking it (very clever) so I would foolishly push what I assumed was a nut hand. Seriously, in limit there's nothing that gets me more wet and excited than everyone's awful play, but in NL it just burns me up when someone plays bad and gets lucky. I think if I was at all confident in my play it wouldn't be as annoying but when I am trying to learn and then seemingly run horrible it really doesn't do me good. I was pretty happy with how I played every hand but 1 but then again I'm sure that many retards are happy with themselves when they smear their feces all over the wall, that doesn't mean it was right. I'm also pretty sure that I get dealt like all of my good hands OOP so I can't even get as much value or play as well as I normally would. I certainly don't get a shortage of unplayable hands from the HJ-button though. Looking through PT where I lost the most on a hand I see one where I 3barreled some guy with AK and then he c/minraised me after a backdoor flush became a possibility so I assumed he flopped bottom or mid pair and then backdoored me because you'd have to be a moron to play a set like that. Then again he probably did have a set and put me on AK and knew he could only extract value by letting me try to bluff him. I don't think I played it particularly bad but I thought it was [censored] hilarious anyway.

1046 hands, -178, 23/20 blah blah meow chow. No [censored] clue what any PT numbers mean in NL but I know that red dollars typically aren't good. The money obviously makes no [censored] difference, it's the losing that makes me want to rip someone's arms right from the [censored] sockets and then beat them with their own appendages. I also just looked at my showdown stats for this session. 20/35 wtsd/w$sd. Despite knowing very little about NL I have a strange hunch that when you showdown half as many hands as you do in limit you should probably be winning more of them, not less.

I mean come on, K8o? If he's stupid enough to call a big raise with it I know he's stupid enough to stack off if just the K came, why can't that happen one time in the billion hands of this horrible [censored] game I've played?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

UTG ($276.50)
MP ($236.15)
CO ($60.90)
Button ($134.15)
SB ($201)
Hero ($291.30)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. CO posts a blind of $2.
2 folds, CO (poster) checks, Button calls $2, 1 fold, Hero raises to $11, CO folds, Button calls $9.

Flop: ($25) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets $20, Button calls $20.

Turn: ($65) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $26, Hero raises to $242, Button calls $77.15 (All-In).

River: ($410.15) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $410.15

Results:
Hero has Ah Ac (one pair, aces).
Button has 8c Ks (two pair, kings and eights).
Outcome: Button wins $271.30. Hero wins $138.85.

This one was a close call, I thought I was going to win it. He threw in a little slowroll on the turn so I mistakenly assumed I had the nut hand on the river.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Button ($216)
Hero ($284.10)
BB ($91.45)
UTG ($90)
MP ($153.65)
CO ($254.65)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG calls $2, 2 folds, Button calls $2, Hero raises to $11, 1 fold, UTG calls $9, Button folds.

Flop: ($26) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets $20, UTG calls $20.

Turn: ($66) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets $63, UTG calls $59 (All-In).

River: ($188) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $188

Results:
Hero has As Ac (three of a kind, aces).
UTG has Js Kc (straight, ace high).
Outcome: UTG wins $184. Hero wins $4.

Notice his world class trap play. I naturally assumed nobody would be moronic enough to check AT here and backdoor flush seemed pretty unlikely because that [censored] is illegal in NL so I pushed against what I thought was just some moronic T wanting to get stacked. I was right about him wanting to get stacked, it's a shame I didn't know he was going to get lucky so I could have folded the flop.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

BB ($86.45)
UTG ($159.70)
Hero ($246.90)
Button ($277.20)
SB ($198)

Preflop: Hero is MP with 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG calls $2, Hero raises to $9, 3 folds, UTG calls $7.

Flop: ($21) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
UTG bets $10, Hero raises to $32, UTG calls $22.

Turn: ($85) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $70, UTG calls $70.

River: ($225) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $50, UTG calls $48.70 (All-In).

Final Pot: $323.70

Results:
UTG has Ts 7s (flush, ten high).
Hero has 3h 3c (three of a kind, threes).
Outcome: UTG wins $322.40. Hero wins $1.30.

Oh, here's another hand where I got trapped like the moron I am:

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

UTG ($86.15)
Hero ($222)
CO ($77)
Button ($134.60)
SB ($224.70)
BB ($307)

Preflop: Hero is MP with T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG calls $2, Hero raises to $9, 4 folds, UTG calls $7.

Flop: ($21) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
UTG bets $12, Hero calls $12.

Turn: ($45) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $35, UTG calls $35.

River: ($115) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
UTG bets $16, Hero raises to $166, UTG calls $14.15 (All-In).

Final Pot: $311.15

Results:
UTG has 2d 2h (three of a kind, twos).
Hero has Tc As (two pair, aces and tens).
Outcome: UTG wins $175.30.