[billbam]

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Oh, and then they have sattelites for their sunday $300+30, and their sats are 10-man $50 buy-in crapshoots that pay one spot.


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Winstar actually plays 9-handed and not 10-handed which reduces the juice in the SAT, still pretty expensive but not nearly as bad. I agree that the format sucks, thus I have never played one.

As to the rake in the 1/2NL game it seems to be pretty standard for an Indian casino. Yes it is steep however the game is so beatable and profitible that you just need get past it. I play 2 to 3 times a week and average about $20/hour.

The $1 jackpot being taken out preflop is the pits, however only one hand in 30 folds to the blinds (in the 1/2nl) so this really doesn't affect the rake much. I have won the jackpot (winners share of 30%) for $3200 so I definitely can't complain. Also remember with the bad beat jackpot that Winstar adds $10,000 to each pot, that makes it a huge overlay. Plus on Mondays through Thursday the sponser several promos such as $100 splash the pot, aces cracked and high hand thus making the actual rake less.

Overall I really enjoy my playing time at Winstar.