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Old 06-09-2007, 10:40 PM
tolbiny tolbiny is offline
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Default Re: For-profit universal healthcare: would it work in the US?

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I'm going to explain this as simply as possible

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If you want to play semantic games go right ahead and play with yourself. You ought to be embarrassed by trying to pretend what your passing off here is an argument. Higher quality and quantity at the same price = cheaper. No one gives a [censored] if you can concoct an [pseudo equation where the denominator is zero, or find an obscure definition of a word or a incorrectly used term where the intent was clear. Its quite pathetic.

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[random thing tolbiny enjoys that isn't part of the entertainment industry] =/= the entertainment industry

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So the internet doesn't count as entertainment? Yeah, youtube, poker, blogs, uhh huh, people don't turn to those for entertainment.

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No, but you could triple it on a 1907 train though, and for a f*ck of a lot less money than it costs to drive a car today. Transportation isn't cheaper, it's more expensive. Grossly.

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No, its really not, and its not even close. Your (again pathetic) attempts to find some way to justify it are hilarious. A $20,000 car is a luxury item. There are a dozen ways I can reduce the cost of traveling, for example i can buy a scooter for 1-2k which will get me 60-80 mpg at a lower insurance rate and get me more than enough miles on it to totally shatter your estimates (and would still be more comfortable than the average transportation of 100 years ago). The fact that people don't regularly choose this option is simply a testament to how much people value comfort over strict $/hr calculations.

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If air travel today is cheaper than ocean travel 100 years ago, you found a total of one example in the transportation industry and none in entertainment. That would mean you're only 94% wrong. Well told!

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To be fair you also gave me the example of the bicycle for free. I was going to use a television as an example, but i'm sure you would counter by saying that buying a 1950s era 12 in B&W TV would cost a pretty penny now, and that somehow buying a 37" lcd for the same dollar amount (much lower actual cost after inflation) doesn't count because your giong to spend more itme watching that TV sine it is far better.
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