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Would living long enough to personally see the sun become a red giant be fair compensation for feeling a bit uneasy about stooping to vote for a Libertarian over a Socialist?

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What I'm saying is Ron Paul takes us further away from that. For once I'm with Nielso. Give me the raging mustachioed communist dictator, and give me true honest convicted freedom lovers who won't waver to preach taxation is evil! Violence is evil! The state is evil! Until it begins to sink in.

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I'm sorry but as a fellow ACist, I have to disagree. Sure, I don't agree with Ron Paul on every single issue, but frankly, at this point in time, I don't care. Just the fact that the overall liberty/free market message is getting out there, to a wider audience, is good enough for me. I probably won't vote but I don't see anything wrong with libertarians and ACists supporting Ron Paul.

AC is not going to happen overnight!

You and Nielso seem to think that it will. That one day everyone will just wake up and start reading Rothbard and watching youtube podcasts and suddenly be converted. Not gonna happen. In fact, I am quite sure nothing close to AC will happen in our lifetimes. But why not make things better rather than worse? Why not try and convert more moderate people into minarchist libertarians and then take it from there?

I know that for me, I had to become a minarchist before I became an ACist. I think that's probably the case for 9/10 ACists on this forum. Even though my philosophy is one of AC, I am still dealing with the confines of reality. And believe me, it's going to take baby steps at first and Ron Paul being all over CNN, FoxNews and the mainstream internet sites is a good enough start.

And when you say you'd rather have George W. Bush for another 4 years than Ron Paul, wow? WTF!? Give Ron Paul a break...he is dealing within the confines of the system in order to achieve a greater goal of spreading the word of liberty and free markets. Philosophically, he could very well be an anarchist, but if he came out saying that on TV, the networks would not give him the time of day.