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Old 06-04-2007, 02:14 AM
Christian_Peters Christian_Peters is offline
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Default Re: Relative Position

I don't like the way you played this hand. Your PF play might seem clever knowing that you are likely going to trap the field for at least 3 and probably 4 SB PF; however, the other 50% of the time, the maniac just calls or folds and you miss your opportunity to exploid your edge.

Also, how has maniac responded to a raise in front of him. If he is 3-betting a lot, then I'm raising 110% of the time because I would love to play this HU against him, or at least shorthanded.

Now....your questions.

I would almost never fold this on the flop. I think the only time I'm folding this on the flop is if it goes - bet (you), raise, raise, cap. I don't consider folding this for 2SB cold on this flop.

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Anybody think they can find a raise on the turn?

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Anybody think they can find a lighter to set your wallet on fire? How could you think about doing anything but folding the turn?


One more thing, while I like the reasoning behind the flop donk - (you know that maniac will insta raise, helping you protect your hand/ thin the field) - I think I would just c/c this flop. There are 3 reasons why c/c the flop is better than your donk:

1. First of all, if you check and the action is really heavy behind you - like if it gets capped or even 3-bet by passive player, you might be able to fold because you know that you're drawing almost dead.

2. More importantly, it will not protect your hand in a pot this huge, even if maniac raises anyone behind him is getting 14:1. Because you have wonderful position relative to maniac, I would plan on waiting for the turn. If the turn comes a safe card, then I donk into maniac and pray that he raises. Do the math on that.

3. Your equity will change a ton on the turn. I would invest little on the flop when you know that your hand will be rendered useless on the turn probably half the time.

The best plan is to wait for the turn. If the turn is a blank, use your position relative to the maniac to protect your hand.
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