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Old 05-31-2007, 04:28 PM
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Default Re: Best Big Men to Ever Play the Game

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My friend,

I think that you are 100% mistaken here. I have gone on record numerous times saying that you and many others overrate players from the 80s- in other words, I think that you are the one being biased.

Want some proof that I'm not biased? In the Steve Nash thread I ranked my top 30 players of my lifetime.

Now lets divide into two groups:

Group A: The "80s generation". We'll define these players as those who were drafted or entered the league in 1985 or before.

Group B: The "90s/00s generation". We'll define these players as those who were drafted or came into the league in 1986 or after.

Of my top 2, 1 of them is from A and 1 is from B

Of my top 4, 2 are from A and 2 are from B

Of my top 6, 3 are from A and 3 are from B

Of my top 8, 4 are from A and 4 are from B

Of my top 10, 5 are from A and 5 are from B

Of my top 12, 6 are from A and 6 are from B

Of my top 14, 7 are from A and 7 are from B



Thats pretty damn unbiased if you ask me. Now let me ask you: Who are your top 3??? Let me take a wild guess...they're all from group A(MJ, Bird, Magic)??? What about your top 5? Let me take another wild guess....other than Shaq, all of them are from group A(MJ, Bird, Magic, Shaq, Hakeem)?


You tell me who is being biased here.

I have been wrong on many occassions. I will sometimes be hypocritical in my logic. I will sometimes overlook certain aspects of things. But I really don't think anyone can accuse me of being biased, being a homer, or being stuck in my opinions. Hell, if I never came out and told people that I was a Wizards fan, most of you wouldn't even be able to tell- thats because I usually leave my personal feelings alone when debating.

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pasting from that thread, here's your list:

Tier 1:
1. MJ
2. Duncan
3. Shaq

Tier 2:
4. Magic
5. Bird
6. Kobe
7. KG
8. Hakeem
9. Robinson

Tier 3:
10. Stockton
11. Barkley
12. Pippen
13. Malone
14. Hill
15. Nash

-you have Duncan 6 spots above Hakeem. Almost every poster in this thread thinks Hakeem was better, and definately not a full tier worse.
-you have KG 4 spots above Barkley and 6 spots above Karl Malone. I would LOVE to hear a rational arguement for either. Both of these guys were better than KG, not a full tier worse.

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Thats pretty damn unbiased if you ask me. Now let me ask you: Who are your top 3??? Let me take a wild guess...they're all from group A(MJ, Bird, Magic)??? What about your top 5? Let me take another wild guess....other than Shaq, all of them are from group A(MJ, Bird, Magic, Shaq, Hakeem)?


You tell me who is being biased here.

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didn't you just get mad at me for "putting words into your mouth"? My top 3 and top 5 look very similar to yours with the exception of Duncan - Jordan Shaq Magic Kobe Bird.
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