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God has pretty much been pushed back to the creation of EVERYTHING...this, at least, believers are sure of..


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I've said this so many times I'm running out of gas.


I drop an apple to the ground. You say gravity did it. Now show that God wasn't necessary for the apple to fall.

There's even more which I haven't gone into because people keep avoiding the first step.

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Its impossible to show that the god of deism wan't necessary. Its easy to show that the god who had a son and will deny heaven to those who don't believe he had a son wasn't required for the apple to fall.

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That actually sounds pretty hard too.