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guess i'm playing too tight, i was check/folding the flop unless there was no raise and several callers. i was basically looking for something like 10-1 odds on the flop.

was surprised see you advocate betting the flop...definite eye-opener for this weak-tight newbie. i'll be looking for more spots like this the next time i play. thanks.

[/ QUOTE ] Not so fast. I agree with you that betting the flop is bad. I too would check and only call getting favorable odds. Im not sure why buzz advocates betting this flop with merely a straigh draw and some backdoor draws on a two spade board when youre OOP.

Hoever, I WOULD bet the turn for sure. Theres just way too many cards that will make you a hand on the river, and while some of those hands wont be the nuts, I still think a bet needs to go in right now. Theres a line between prudence and nut peddling. The fact that there are so many players in the pot makes me actually MORE inclined to bet for value here.

As played I would flat call the buttons bet. I thought this was obvious at first, and then had second thoughts. The notion of promoting your low draw or straight draws is mildly attractive, but in the end I dont think that its a play that actually works/helps you all that often.