[Mr_Donktastic]

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I still can't believe that people will call a shortstack push with hands like 99 and KQ...sooooo -ev.


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depends on the shortstack

but 99 is +EV vs prob 75% of shortstackers shoves, almost all of the shorties play terrible

just annoying to have in the games

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I guess that explains why I can do it profitably.

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lol I bet you play better than almost all shorties, I prob didn't clarify my thoughts, I don't mean 99 is ahead 75% of the time when a shortstack shoves, just that you need to call a shove vs most of the shortstackers with 99(the standard, I open to 4bb, shorty shoves for 20bbs)

I haven't really thought about KQ or messed around in pokerstove, but I imagine its +EV a fair amount of the time, but less often than 99

also if the shortstack doesn't rathole, my edge vs them with 40bbs is pretty decent

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I understood what you were saying. It's always a lot closer when you open and the ss shoves.

I messed up and meant to say when I had KK I opened and the guy with 99 shoved over me, which makes it entirely different...and entirely -ev.

And if a ss doesn't rathole he's not doing it right [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]