[_dave_]

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You're right, #4 is a type of program that I assumed would be banned (even if it is for novice players).

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As did I, until I did a spot of research before posting in the main thread [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

I think it is just as telling that Party does not liston on the "unfair advantage" list - they kind of endorse anything not explicitly banned, whereas Stars at least lists things that are OK.


I think it is fair to say that if true (although I don't believe so, based on nlnuts AHK posts indicating somewhat of an AHK n00b) if he made an app that parsed a text file containing the Pre / Flop / Turn / River rules of the "system" (added to this they deny the existance of such written records.... my drones do it all from memory lol), then flashed up a big red "FOLD", green "CALL" etc., this would be allowed (on Stars at least).

And I kind of agree. an indicator is just that - an indicator. A bot physically does the actions for the player... now, the ring-master may well have a hold over the dorones, i.e. reducing pay / punishment for deviating from instructions - but so long sd the actual human still has the oppurtunity to deny the instructions snd think say "FFS, he is FOS.. I push!" against recommended strategy - that player cannot be clasified as a bot - and because of this (human emotion can override recommendation at any time) is nowhere near as dangerous to the game as a real, emotionless fully automated bot.


Thoughts?


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It's still too illogical to think that a place that outlaws datamining would allow humanbotting, and that it was an oversight when they made the rules. I would imagine we'll see an update to Stars rules soon.

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I'd like an update to Stars terms to remove such "intra-hand advisor" applications. Although I'd far rather they opened up so called "datamining"... as this is the way we are alerted to such strange behaviour in the first place.

Added to which datamining is very easy for those that don't care to follow t&c and will datamine anyway, we honest players are at a significant disadvantage with the current status quo [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

dave.