Re: My Statement
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CSC,
Again, if you read his statement, I think it's pretty clear he knew it was wrong. He just thought there was enough $$$ value to him that doing that amount of wrong was OK. So, his willingness to cheat is clearly a function of the benefit gained by it. You can connect the dots.
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I believe ZeeJustin was operataing under the influence of Gorden Gecko's "Greed is good" maxim, and there was no moral calculus beyond that. Also, he was operating in an ethical environemnt that many people--including respected posters on here--said was perfectly fine to operate under.
Also, I don't believe creating a widespread snitching operatin is the answer. I knew of many people who were doing this (I never asked for details and had no idea that people would be brazen enough to enter 6 accounts in a tournament, but that's actually irrelevant) and would never consider telling on anyone, friend or enemy.
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What worries me about this rationale is that while you (apparently as a member of the "club" that's on the right AIM buddy lists/invited to the private forums were these things are discussed; perhaps I'm wrong and you're not, but I think this should apply to anyone in the high-stakes tourney culture that knew multi-accounting was prevalent, and does not necessarily need to be directed at you Shaniac) -- while you are fortunate enough to be aware these kinds of things were happening, many of us were not. I understand the conflict that "ratting someone out" creats, and why so many are hesistant to do it.
But I don't feel comfortable that there's apparently an "insular world" (as gumpzilla put it) where there are a privileged few who are aware of all the unethical dealings that go on (which steal from the player population at large) but who also feel absolutely no obligation to inform anyone else about it.
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Pretty much the only difference is that I knew I was taking it up the as$s, because of people doing this, or figured I was, and you didn't.
Not sure what private forum you allude to (I participate in none) but I am friends with a lot of people in the poker world, am trusted by a wide range of them, and don't consider it my place to police their ethics, or their practices.
Every bit of my gut told me this was wrong--and I never did it myself for this reason, or maybe it's because I, personally, am too lazy to confront the hassle of withdrawing money through Party Poker on a fake account--but I was convinced by people who are generally smarter and more adept at poker thinking than I am, that this was acceptable, not really cheating and just part of the new ehtical poker landscape that online ushered in. I'm easily influenced in that way--not to participate in the mayhem, but to accept it as reality.
In any case, I'm not going to be the one to inform on my friends, regardless of what they did or how wrong I may have determined it to be. Everyone has his own ethical boundaries to create and confront, their own morals to establish, and I would feel more disingenuous informing on people who trust me than the cheaters themselves are.
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