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Old 05-10-2007, 05:17 AM
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Default Re: War Against the Bots

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And as to "shotgun" attacks, if they had the desired effect, they're better than the current situation.


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Even if say a DOS attack on a server running a bot website causes said server to 'crash' and negatively impacts the small business owner (and everyone else) who has his website hosted on it?

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Bluff, to reiterate -- I am not trolling here but considering you were calling out M2TR as a 'low ethics' poster in the FT bot thread, I think it would be appropriate for you to clarify your position regarding the use of 'force' against botters/bot websites/etc.

Some of the 'Guerilla warfare' methods mentioned in your OP have the potential to cause damages to persons other then the botters. Would you condone say a DOS attack on a server that hosts a bot website (ignoring the legality of such an attack)?

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LF,

We aren't talking about guns and bombs here and killing people. However there is a concept from the War on Terror that applies here. And that is that terrorists have to live and be supported by/in a physical location in some nation, and don't just exist in limbo. And it is right and necessary to attack those who support and enable them. So ignoring the legality of an issue, or just confining ourselves to an example that is legal but "harms" others, I would have ZERO ethical qualms in harming the webhosts of bot sites, spammers or hackers, *provided that*, I gave them a fair warning first.

An example of this was the famous "love not spam" campaign a few years ago by Lycos where they had a screensaver for download that attacked the servers that spam originated from with a DOS (really DDS) attack. That is *totally* OK by me.
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