[DWarrior]

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Nicho,

Even if your explanation is true, which doesn't seem likely, nlnut and nation have given a different story. There is a lie in those stories somewhere and that's the point.

[/ QUOTE ] link me too the lie.... i missed it.

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The lie is all of your story not adding up, not accounting for all the stats, and especially for post-flop play. Your explanation simply is unproven and unreasonable for you to be both not botting and not running a sweatshop or playing all those accounts yourself at the same time in some way.

[/ QUOTE ] What is the definition of a sweat shop. I'm sorry but i never used the word before. So if i'm sitting in front of a computer (in the middle) with 2 friends on each side of me and were discussing hands/decisions is that a sweatshop...if so I am guilty.

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I will define a sweatshop as a group of players that are playing together under the direction of a single person directly or indirectly through a program/playbook/set of rules, whatever you want to call it.

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The thread should end at bots.

This "sweatshop" you speak of (which is the first time I heard the term used ever on 2+2, but I don't read a lot of Zoo), is basically impossible to disprove without taking their word for it. You're basically saying "ok, so it's not a bot, it's a person directing their play, so that's why there is human error involved"

Sure, having X players memorize the same strategy and follow it almost exactly is far-fetched. But I think the idea of a poker sweatshop is far more far-fetched.

And now some people have basically resorted to personal attacks..."you're idiots if you can play 300k hands and not make adjustments to improve bb/100". That is a pointless accusation. Props to them for having the endurance to grind that much and I wish I had the discipline to do that.