[viper930]

also something ive noticed from playing with these guys for many tens of thousands of hands is that they joyfully nut themselves stacking off with AA.

Now, I understand folding AA isnt something that many people like to do, but in full ring there are some VERY obvious spots to pitch the hand. None of these guys have laid down AA from what I've seen no matter how obvious it is that theyre beat from the action. You'd think a coupla fairly smart guys would figure this out.