My email to Joy :
Joy, I keep hearing one side of a concern about your charity poker tournament at the Playboy Mansion over the weekend.
One quote that I've heard came from you in your explanation was that the concerned party was Terrance Chan not Johnny Chan. Now I'm sure noone in your position would ever say something that unprofessional.
Would you please take the time to explain your side to me.
Thank you very much for your time
Robert
Her resonse :
i've gotten threatening phone calls and very nasty emails all day and i appreciate you taking the time to ask me to explain like a normal person. there is no need for strangers to decide to threaten my life over something so trivial.
the quote was said AFTER Terrence told me that he would "give me a chance to make things right before he was forced to take matters in to his own hands". that was perceived by myself as a threat to bad mouth the event (which it has turned in to anyway), so my response was insinuating that he didn't have the clout of Johnny Chan (which he doesn't, seeing as crazy people are sending me threats about something that doesn't affect them). i wasn't insulting his poker play, simply responding that he shouldn't attempt to extort something from me when he couldn't back his threat up.
i seriously appreciate you asking me directly. i'm not responding to the other emails/phone calls as they are derogatory and trivial. the event raised a lot of money for a non -profit and it's a shame that Terrence felt the need to attempt to exploit my decision in order to get his way.
the shameful thing is if he hadn't blindsided me with posting his business on the web, i probably would have gotten him the seat, as i wanted him to feel satisfied.
p.s. dannenmann and shannon are both donating their seats...ironic, huh?
thank you again for asking me directly, hope this helps alleviate any concerns/issues
Me :
It does help. Thanks for taking the time to explain something to me that you had no obligation to do so.
I have 1 more question and one statement that may or may not apply to you.
Do you mind if I post your response on
www.twoplustwo.com ?
I don't have much tact so here it goes : I've honestly never heard of you before and that is no surprise. Only because I don't play in any big tourneys. I live in Memphis and play some online and in Tunica.
But besides this incident there have been people chiming in on 2+2 talking about, basically, how mean you are. Once again I don't know you so I'm certainly not passing judgement. I just wanted to let you know.
I am a manager who oversees about 75 workers. I have a pretty bad rep. The first time I heard how much of a jerk I was blew me away. I honestly thought I was well thought of by the workforce. it turns out I was just so intense I came across as a jerk. I've since chilled out just a tad and now they think I'm decent [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
I don't know why I'm telling you all of this. IIRC I heard you were involved with the WSOP (one of these days I'll make it out for one of the prelims) anyway I hope you have a smooth next couple months. I know it'll be trying with thousands and thousands of peopel in those tourneys.
Take care
Her :
thanks for the advice.
a lot of people think i'm mean, but there are thousands of players each summer and as long as the ones i deal with on a regular basis don't have a problem with me then i can care less. i'm abrupt and don't have the patience to listen to people when it's nonsense. i don't affect the play of the players so anyone who is putting in effort to discuss me, is wasting their time.
i have good friends in poker and as long as i'm not hurting them, i'm neutral about what others say.
on another note, it doesn't help that i'm a woman. i don't read the 2+2 forums because it's a lot of gossip and a lot of speculation and while i get the free speech aspect, i choose not to involve myself in it.
if you feel like defending me...be prepared for the wrath of those that want to pick a fight for no reason ;-)
good luck this summer! If you see a mean little girl walking around-say hi to me ;-)
Anyway after the email exchange with her I thought it was pretty nice for her to explain her side. I also didn't really know how to take the part of her email saying that as long as her poker playing friends were cool with her then she doesn't care about the rest.
I looked at it a couple different ways. One way was that if her poker playing friends thought she was handling herself or situations fine then that would be a good way to guage her actions.
Another way I looked at it was as long as the people she cared about liked her then screw the rest.
I'm pretty sure she meant it the first way. What do you all think?
Edit - This email exchange was 24 hours ago. I havn't read much of the other ones. but I wanted people to know the timeline, if interested.