[NIX]

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Thx nix. What's your line for the river if I may ask (I'm assuming a bet if you hit)? (blank falls, straight draw falls, heart blank falls, heart straight draw falls).

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If I catch a king or an ace, I’m bet/folding again, although that does leave me the chance of folding the better hand if he pairs the river with a busted heart draw (if he has A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] for example). If a blank falls or if the board pairs, I’m check/calling, hoping to pick off a bluff. If the 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], or J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] come off, I’m check/folding. Just about anything else, I hate it, but I’d probably check/call, although I tend to showdown too much. With the only read being he’s aggressive enough to attempt blind steals, I would give him enough credit to attempt some bluffs.

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The math might be a little off but the idea is that as long as equity you give up by folding > the losses you make on later streets by getting to showdown, you should get to showdown? Is this what you meant with Also, bet-fold is not EV neutral, because you're giving up equity; fold pf is the only truly 0EV play. bozlax?

So then the question is what's the best way to get to showdown and that's ofc b/f (folding doesn't get us to showdown but if he raises us his range narrows to pairs and we have no odds for our 6 outer so np) because like nix clearly said c/c gives villain a free card when we are ahead and we still loose 1BB when behind.

At the river we have 5:1 odds so we call every river card but the Th? Or is it more complicated?

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The reason that bet/folding isn’t 0EV is that unless Villain has a hand we are drawing dead against (JT, a set, or two pair), we have some equity in the pot, and I don’t think there is any way you can put Villain on two pair or better from the PF/flop action and any reasonable turn action. If we fold, we forfeit that equity.

To go along with your first quoted statement, I look at it like this. Going off the range you gave before, Hero is 36% (or just about 2:1) to win the hand on the turn. With ~3BB in the pot on the turn, our odds to showdown are 5:2 if a bet goes in on every street. Therefore, we should look to showdown. Against an aggressive opponent, this is usually done by check/calling the turn and river. However in this hand, we’ve shown that betting the turn is better than check/calling, since it’s better for money to go in when you’re ahead and behind than just when you’re behind (AaronW has said this in other posts). Then, you can check/call the river since so few worse hands would call a river bet making betting the river UI pointless.

Finally, it’s actually 6:1 to call on the river if Villain bets. Again, I’m calling just about any river, but you or others could make a case for a better range to call against.