[kaby]

Thx nix. What's your line for the river if I may ask (I'm assuming a bet if you hit)? (blank falls, straight draw falls, heart blank falls, heart straight draw falls).

I think I get it now, while we never win money on the turn or the river, by c/f'ing the turn we auto-lose 33% of 3BB (1BB).

By betting the turn we lose .34BB and on the river we lose something like .25BB. However, we keep our 33% equity of what will be (and here I'm lost, do I have to count my own bets that go in on the turn&river too?) a 5 or 7 BB pot. So that's 33% of 5= 1.66BB - .34BB -.25BB = 1BB. Going to showdown gets us 1BB while folding the turn gets us 0, thus we GTSD?

The math might be a little off but the idea is that as long as equity you give up by folding > the losses you make on later streets by getting to showdown, you should get to showdown? Is this what you meant with Also, bet-fold is not EV neutral, because you're giving up equity; fold pf is the only truly 0EV play. bozlax?

So then the question is what's the best way to get to showdown and that's ofc b/f (folding doesn't get us to showdown but if he raises us his range narrows to pairs and we have no odds for our 6 outer so np) because like nix clearly said c/c gives villain a free card when we are ahead and we still loose 1BB when behind.

At the river we have 5:1 odds so we call every river card but the Th? Or is it more complicated?

Thx for the input guys I feel like I'm learning here ^-^ - I hope I'm correct