[kaby]

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Who said b/f was no good? I'm sure as hell not calling a raise.

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I did, in a kinda long post that you seem to ignore [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img], because betting is not for value and we don't fold out better hands, thus betting is -ev.

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Also, bet-fold is not EV neutral, because you're giving up equity; fold pf is the only truly 0EV play.

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please elaborate? [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] Btw I never said b/f was neutral EV i think it's negative ev ... c/f is neutral ev



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Dude, you're not firing the last barrel on the river UI if you're called on the turn. But if you don't fire on the turn in this situation, you're just begging people to limp in against you and wait for you to miss the flop and bet into you on the turn.

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I'm not against firing again on the turn, i'm against firing on this flop&turn because of the cards ... our equity is a lot higher on like a 27J6r board, there I'd fire again.

Also, do you agree or disagree that betting is -ev? If you agree, are you seriously saying we should make a -ev play at .25/.50 for metagame purposes? If you disagree, could you please point out where my pokerstove post is wrong?