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Old 04-24-2007, 05:37 PM
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Default Re: A hand vs Rizen in stars 109 double stack

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you dont think rizen folds QQ to a raise on this dry-ass board?

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if he does, you aren't bluffing enough

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it's not whether you bluff enough, it's whether rizen thinks you do/how large his 3 bet PF range is

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yeah, but isn't that basically the same thing, ranges and perception of ranges? let's face it, if folding QQ on a 932 flop to one flop raise in a reraised pot is easy for your opponent, you're doing something wrong.

maybe if tom mcevoy is the button and t.j. cloutier is the BB, this is a fold

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and if anyone says anything that even rhymes with exploitable re: instafolding QQ to a raise here, just quit life.

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thin ice my friend

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you know, you may just be wrong about this. have you considered that?

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hmmm

no

but okay, okay. point is, if a reraise is correct here, then you're the one narrowing Rizen's pf range way too much. because whether or not he folds QQ to a raise isn't the end-all point. assuming an optimal range, he'd be folding too many non-paired hands to make up for the value you THINK we get from QQ anyway
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