Re: A hand vs Rizen in stars 109 double stack
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I semi agree MLG I thought shoving PF is fine vs 99% of people I don't think rizen folds JJ to a shove PF and that's my default line but this discussion was more about flop and turn play.
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Unless the vill thinks the hero is easily capable of shoving a fairly wide range preflop, I don't think the hero can shove and expect a call from the villain holding anything other than KK/AA maybe, QQ. But, even then I'm not sure villain calls this early and deep with less than KK.
This seems especially true since the villain likely reraises preflop with a much larger range than he would ever call with. Shoving in that case seems to unnecessarily tighten the villain's range and reduce the likelihood of a wider range giving more action on more flops and turns.
I think MLG meant reraising pre>>>>than smooth calling. Y/N?
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