[jlocdog]

Hand 1: Barring any random moves that these guys are making (total bluffs or just plain monkey moves) I think the EP has a big ace. Lets say AJs+. The button calls his preflop and flop bet with either two pair like A7s or hit a set of 33',55's,77's. The SB calling OOP has either a set as well or a random 64spade, flush, straight draw, or a combo of the two.

EP should definetly dump. The button might need to go to the felt here as SB range is just a bit too big. If button has small set (33) than he may be able to dump. But mid or high set (I am dislcuding a set of aces here) and a call is in order.

Hand 2: I find it interesting that EP bets the pot on the flop indicating serious strength or really wanting the MP to dump and then refines his bet to 60% of the pot on the turn. Was he jamming trips and then setting up a river move with a smaller bet and a check? Was he semibluffing a flush draw?

The MP looks to have hit either the king (AK,KQ,KJs) or maybe loose called with A4s. After seeing the EP be recless earlier he thought his implied odds were good enough to call with position. The problem I am having is the MP still has people to act behind him so a loose call like that is extremely vulnerable.

Yet KK/AA could get away with this type of smooth call. Then they either wait for a squeeze attempt or they have position and their hand is well disguised. Obviously if this is the case then a call is mandatory. With the former (A4s,Kx,) you gotta dump. I don't put the MP on a flush draw only because he wasn't really being given good odds and their is a pair on the board. The combination of the two vs. a maniac still doesn't pay out in implied odds form.