[Jack of Arcades]

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The second set doesn't say something "just as silly." The first set suggests that they are actually better missing one of their starters...clearly that is wrong(or else the coaching staff is doing something wrong by starting that player). Clearly the Heat are not better without Shaq or Wade. When I looked at that, I concluded that there must be another factor at work. Thats what led me to the JWill stat.

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The second stat suggests that Jason Williams is the most important player on the Heat, wouldn't you say?

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The year he arrived so did Peja, Webber, and Divac. Also, their two best seasons happened to year after he left.

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I already admitted this.

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Then why are you saying "he does seem to help teams win"? In this way you are linking the turnaround of Sacramento, Memphis, and Heat ("turnaround" used tenuously) as points for Jason Williams.

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Hes the PG, which is the floor general. I use "led" just as I would use "led" with any QB in football. I think you're looking into things too much.

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So Smush Parker "led" the Lakers to the #7 seed in the playoffs? Because that statement is as absurd as Jason Williams "leading" Memphis to the 4 and 5 seeds.

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Before he got to Miami they won 59 games and went to game 7 of the conference finals.

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I know.

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Dude, no one's hating him. If you said:

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Hes a solid starter in the league, he makes his teamates better, he doesn't turn over the ball, hes actually turned into a pretty good defender which is surprising, and hes a veteran.

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There would be no problem, because everything you said here it's true.

However, you feel the need to use ridiculous logic that overstates your case. Your points were:

1. Heat w/Jason Williams: 27-17; Heat w/o Jason Williams: 10-14
2. Sacramento before Jason Williams sucked, Sacramento after Jason Williams made the playoffs.
3. Memphis before Jason Williams sucked. When he got there, he "led" them to two straight playoff appearances.
4. Heat before Jason Williams "decent." Heat after Jason Williams = Championship.

No matter how you couch the language around these points, they point to Jason Williams being a very good player. Furthermore, the language you use is misleading. Heat were "decent," Williams "led," etc.

All you had to say was "Jason Williams is pretty solid, he's 11/5 in 30 minutes this season and he's a decent 3-point threat." Instead you built a ridiculous case assembled on faulty logic and deceptive language.