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Old 04-18-2007, 01:51 PM
mosdef mosdef is offline
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Default Re: Gun accidents? Guns are dangrous?

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What's misleading? Things are dangerous. Things can be used to hurt other people.

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Indeed, but there are two types of "things" - those that are designed specifically to hurt other people and those that do something else and can be used to hurt other people. You can't make statements about one type and generalize them to the other type because they're different.

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What difference does it make if there are uses that *you* consider "legitimate" or "useful" outside of that?

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It is not a personalized utility (i.e. you're *you* is an invalid accusation). We're talking about objects that are built and sold to provide some service. If a company builds cars and sells them to people to use for transport, it's not *my* interpretation that the car is designed for transport. That's what it's for.

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If *you* don't like object XYZ, don't buy one.

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But if you possess a gun and it changes the chance that I will be shot that's an act of aggression against me. So it's not sufficient that I not buy one for myself. Using your reasoning if I punch you in the face and you say "hey, you don't have the right to punch me in the face" then I can say "if you don't like being punched in the face then don't make a fist".

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You think there's no use for a gun outside of the ability to mortally wound, but most times guns are used, people are not mortally wounded. Maybe I use one to prop open a door. What difference does it make?

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You could also use, I don't know, a little triangular piece of wood maybe. If your argument in support of gun ownership is that you should be able to endanger me so that you can have something to prop your door open with then you'll need to do better than that.
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