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sublime,
i obviously did just estimate 5 wins without doing research to back it up. This really doesn't discredit my point tho much at all if any. If rivera was used more optimally they would win more games. I estimated 5... if you don't like my estimation that's cool, but that doesn't mean rivera is being used optimally

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5 games would be taking a bullpen of replacements level players and replacing them with 4 ace relievers.

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since you were being a jerk earlier i decided to pick on you


if you take the 4 worst relievers off the devil rays and replace them with billy wagner mariano rivera zumaya and papplebon (jus first four ace relievers that came to my head) they increase there expected win total by MUCH more than 5 games

...keep trying [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]