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Old 04-16-2007, 10:28 PM
Heisenb3rg Heisenb3rg is offline
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Default Re: another bad river bet-call

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Therefore,
I hate a check and I hate a fold. Well played sir.

Especially vs myles who ive seen pull moves on 2+2ers.

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You think Miles pays off enough?

chez

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I'll answer your question with another question
Would you ever bet KJ/QJ/78s/KQ/J8 here if those were your hands instead?

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Fair point but I don't have/bet them enough for Miles to call (and he know it). Not saying I shouldn't have/bet them often enough for him to call.

chez

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I think you'd be amazed how surprinslgy little we know about the subtle differences between various TAG's games. While most 2+2ers play almost identical fundamentals, their frequences in sitautions like this can differ substantially.

Why not save yourself a headache and take solice in the fact that if the only hands he has are bluffs and trip 5's, you can check behind all your other pairs worse than a pair of aces and profit. He's now losing money AGAINST YOUR RANGE by checking the river with trip 5's. This is because your range is composed of less aces than 9x,Tx, JJ-KK and you would likely call his bet with a lot of them. (you are checking or folding a lot of ace high hands on the turn)

You still come out ahead by him being fancy.. Also, if he decides to call your bet.. Well now you gain too. If you find out later on 2+2 that he folded Tx, then start bluffing :P

If you have a specific read (I'm sure myles wouldnt do blah blah blah) than use it. If not, you might as well play so he can't outplay you. For all you know, he has a read.
Assuming you wouldn't also check trip 5's in his situation, you've already won the battle of mistakes in this hand and made a bit of money.
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