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different hand. i agree with you about the 'moral', but in your hand you were goading him the whole time, his line was a bluff inducing line, and the board was not scary. in OP's hand, there is no trash talking going on, his line is designed to AVOID bluffs not to induce them, and the flush just hit on the river. totally different.

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there's a big difference between board and action in OP's post and yours.

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Uhm, a shove after a check is much different than a shove after a bet no? Your scenario is completely different.,

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some of you are being stupid. i didn't say the hand or action was similar, the similarity i referred to was the scenario of a guy who's about to quit the game and is playing his last hand. krantz thinks in that situation the guy would be more likely to fold a non-nut hand in order to finish "winner"; i told a story where someone put in 400bb's in that spot with AA. even after the top card on the flop paired on the turn (i guess that's not a scary card at all though).

doesn't matter if it's their "last hand." ppl don't fold aces. ppl don't fold sets. reading a guy not only for aces, but for a SET OF ACES, and trying to push him off of it--with, what, about a pot-sized raise left?--is not going to end well very often.

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Sorry guy, you are being stupid. This thread is about a hand and its action...not "hey I can bluff anyone because they are about to leave and they're up money".