[John von Neumann]

It's not that I think you are innocent, tutu, it's that I found it strange T&J and I were about to be on the same side of an issue, after being like cats and dogs all afternoon.

You may take comfort in the fact that T&J and I are again on opposite sides... he likes the grinder wagon and I think that's a very bad idea. grinder's last set of reads look a whole lot the same as mine.

But I hate to disappoint you - vote pinktutubear - happy now? What I really mean is "don't vote grindhouse, and tutu looks like a reasonable alternative."