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I have a sense that I am entitled to unlimited hookers and blow at your expense.

A sense of entitlement is not an entitlement.

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ummmm, how is this even a response?

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I asked if there was an entitlement created by the size of the investment, you said there is a "sense" of entitlement. What are you confused about?

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what did you give up for your entitlement to hookers and blow, and when did it become my expense?

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What difference does that make? I have a sense.

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i think you are missing the point of IP rights in the first place. there is no law in the universe that says when someone invests in something they get entitled to it. so IP laws are created to make that entitlement, because we feel morally/economically inclined to reward that kind of investment.

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We who? If YOU want to reward that investment, go right ahead. Your desire to reward someone doesn't give you any legitimate authority to restrict *my* activities.
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I dont think you understand the huge amount of investment that goes into some of these inventions.



I have a pretty good idea.


[/ QUOTE ] ok. then explain why that kind of investment shouldnt be rewarded. thanks

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You're on the cusp of arguing the Labor Theory of Value. Who cares what the investment is? The results are either valuable to me or they are not, *regardless* of the size of the investment.

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No one would invest in doing such R&D if it could be copied a month later and sold for like 1/2 the price.



What difference does this make?

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I mean, if you can't see the difference this makes, I really dont know what to say. It should be pretty obvious that if I am going to invest 500m into a new drug, and the market will only sustain it at x% mark up, Im going to be pretty sh** out of luck when a competitor copies it, and sells it for (x/2)% above cost.

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And that's my problem because?

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All the competitor has to do is undercut me, he doesnt have to worry about loans or investments that went into R&D. So i would say that makes a pretty big difference.

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Yeah. It's good for me, bad for you. So what?

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And seriously, read the John Locke, im sure you could find some of his stuff on wiki under "property." Interesting way to look at property. While it covers things ideas like land property or wahtever, u can see how it would apply to IP.

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I've read it. I don't see how it applies to IP, since IP isn't scarce. But we've been over that and over that.