Re: Common No Limit Situation
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You certainly do not want a flop of A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]8 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]7 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. That is a very dubious flop for you, and you need to tread very lightly. Once BB leads into you (the preflop raiser) for 1/2 PSB (with four other players to act), it is an easy fold. Staying in this hand on this flop is -EV. You're often behind, and even when you're not, you have the worst relative position, poor absolute position, the risk of falling behind to a myriad of draws, and low ability to know when you are ahead. All these factors point to -EV.
Because your opponents can have such a wide range of hands, every step of the way is going to be difficult. For example, suppose you call (the poorest decision IMO), one player behind calls, another raises to $1,500, the BB calls, and now it's back to you. Feel better now? Or, maybe you call, two others call, and you see a turn. I'm not sure how that is better when about half the turn cards will just make things worse for you. This is not a hand to make profit in--better to fold now.
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I completely agree with your assessment. While I may not have communicated my thoughts properly, I feel the same way. That being said, the reason I say limp is that you can limp raise ONE raiser (everyone else out of the way) with a hand like this, but the second you're in a multi-way pot with it, you're pretty much screwed unless the flop hits you HARD. I mean, 80%+ of the time you're going to want to fold post flop in EP in a 3-6 way pot, but the hand is a decent hand sans position. So lose the minimum if you feel you want to play the hand.
That's all I meant ... and obviously like everything in poker, this is highly player/table/situation dependent.
Nice comments tho ... thanks for explaining.
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