Re: 600NL: QJs
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Do you guys really think a lot of people c/r fold here with a bare A?
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No, I think a lot of people are c/r here with all kinds of outlandish [censored] and will follow up and fire this turn with high frequency.
If you're playing in the same games I am, c-bets are raised/checkraised with such frequency now that shoving this flop is essential just to keep these people off your back. Also, even when called and slightly behind, shania/meta considerations make this +EV imo.
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Is it weird that my first instinct when I saw this hand was "shove the turn for value" ?
I definitely agree with what you're saying about metagame though, and the fact that our bet just looks like a position bet makes him even more likely to c/r with cheese.
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shoving the turn for value seems like a bad idea. The guy is pot committed with AX. The only value of shoving the turn is worse draws calling - who I think come along on the flop anyways if we shove.
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