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Old 02-20-2006, 04:07 PM
rockin rockin is offline
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Default Re: With deep stacks, I always fold top pair!

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Dear everyone who says the turn check induced a river bluff:

Not one of you has named a single hand which he could have that he would be "bluffing" with. He called my flop bet, he doesn't have air. I recognize that the outline of this line (bet flop, check behind on turn, face a river bet) is very often a bluff, but given the board it is very unlikely. In all the responses in this thread, 0 people have actually come up with a possible hand which he could have bluffed with.

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quite a few people have named hands that he could bluff with. AJ,AT,KK,JJ,TT,AcKx. Are you not considering these as bluffs?

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Some of the hands in that range are absurd, and the others are not bluffs.

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KK and AK = absurd? is this what you meant?

additionally if villain has ANY of these hands and is betting 2000 on the river into a hand in which he is either WA or WB on, then why would you not consider these hands bluffs? certainly not value bets, since almost no hands that he would have beat, call here. is this not the very definition of a bluff. he is trying to get a better hand to lay it down.
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