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Old 03-22-2007, 01:40 AM
Fonkey123 Fonkey123 is offline
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Default Re: Spew or Sexy: You decide!

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Ok, I'll say it again. This is a play that is good sometimes, and only against palyers who will fold 88-TT kind of hands... If he wont fold these, don't do it. If he will fold these, do it once in a while. Anyone who says it is complete spew and always spew is dead wrong...

EDIT: FWIW, AJ isn't really much better than A2 assuming we make the move, because have established that if we make the move, we think he is capable of folding at least 88-TT. We don't think he will fold JJ+ here, so A2 fairs basically the same against his calling range. Make this play with any ace against the right players with the right frequency and it IS +EV.

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This pretty much echoes my sentiment here. This play has some nice metagame value, but if he's going to look you up with mid pairs almost every time; I really don't think it's worth it. Agreed with the ALWAYS/NEVER truisms as well.

The trouble I'm having is assigning hand ranges for villain. He's reraising an UTG raiser with a player to act behind in position the entire hand. Set/trips 20%, mid pair 40%, flush draw/random hands 40%? Seem somewhat close? I'm inclined to think a midpair would smoothcall here unless he's defining his hand to fold to a push. The more I think about this hand, the more I like it.
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