Re: GOING ALL IN
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But lets say you buy in at $300.00 in a
$1/$2 NL game and tou happen to catch pocket kings or queens or even aces if some one takes you all in for your whole satck of $300.00 and thats all you have should you make the call?
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First, if your whole stack is on the table in one hand, then you are improperly bankrolled and it will be almost impossible for you to make money. You will eventually hit enough "variance" in the cards to drop your entire buy-in despite doing everything correctly. You need at least 10 buy-ins to play comfortably, and I would recommend 20.
You can't play scared. And you can't expect to make money if you go broke as soon as you hit a couple of bad beats.
If you have aces, then you should call.
If you have kings, then there are rare cases where you might find a fold, but usually you have to make the call. Phil Gordon says, "The fourth raise is always aces," and he's probably right. But in 100bb-stack poker, you're usually all-in before the 4th raise, so you usually just don't know you're up against aces often enough to fold kings profitably preflop in that kind of a cash game.
If you have queens/jacks/tens/AK/AQ, then this is usually an easy fold unless the raiser is a maniac and you are finally taking a stand since his hand range is so wide that you might very well be up against J7s or something.
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i know it epends on your opponent and how many people are in the hand,
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No, not if you have aces in a cash game. You get the money in because you have the best possible hand preflop and you should be willing to get the money in when you know that have the best hand.
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... but from a philosopical stand point, doesnt it make more sense to not gamble your 2 cards preflop because anything can happen, and just try to out play your opponets then trying to rely on coin flips???
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Aces vs any other two cards is not a coin flip. You have an advantage. Let's say you have less than a 50% chance to win all in vs 4 oponents where everybody has $100.
pokenum -h ac ad - qs qh - js ts - 4d 5d - 7h 7c
Holdem Hi: 850668 enumerated boards
cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
Ac Ad 351180 41.28 498483 58.60 1005 0.12 0.413
Qs Qh 134378 15.80 715285 84.09 1005 0.12 0.158
Js Ts 127096 14.94 722567 84.94 1005 0.12 0.150
5d 4d 136339 16.03 713324 83.85 1005 0.12 0.161
7c 7h 100670 11.83 748993 88.05 1005 0.12 0.119
So, in this case, you lose $100 58.6% of the time. But you win $400 41.28% of the time. If you fold, then you win nothing and lose nothing.
So, your expected value from this hand in which you lose more than 50% of the time is still quite positive.
-100 * 58.60% = -58.6
+400 * 41.28% = +165.12
-58.6 + +165.12 = +106.52.
So, if you make this call every time over 100 times, then you will expect to win, on average, $10,652 vs the $0 you would win if you simply folded every time.
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