[ceczar]

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ceczar,

High stakes players can read the MSNL board, too. And maybe it's just my personal perspective, but I think the high stakes board SHOULD be reserved for posts which discuss play/concept particularly suited to high stakes games. This concept is more universal and more basic/fundamental and therefore I think the MSNL board readers would benefit more from it (even the HSNL players who read the MSNL board, too.) It was just a suggestion.

- TWP

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i understand where you're coming from. i wish i read MSNL more, because i know there are some good discussions there. but there are many times as many threads there as there are here, and i think a lot of people here just don't have time to do more than skim (at least those of us that have to make time during work to read the forums). i'm sure most MSNL players check here everyday, which is why i think general theory (even if it's not particularly difficult concepts) is better suited here.

i guess it's a bit of an empirical question. if we encouraged posts along the lines of this thread's discussion would we all of sudden be overloaded with them? if that were the case than i would have to agree with you that they are better suited elsewhere. my guess however is that they will still remain relatively rare, and occasional posts like this are not problematic for the health of the forum.

every once in a while when i'm playing or thinking about hands i have a little epiphany about strategy. i'm sure most here have moments from time to time when they realize they had a leak or figured out a good way to attack a common mistake (or at least used to have them before they figured everything out). i think the OP is a result of just that: he was thinking about that hand or a similar situation, and came to a realization about free cards. he thought it was useful and non-obvious enough to share, so he posted it here.

there are a lot of players who have already made that discovery, maybe a long time ago, so they don't get much use from the discussion. there are a lot of players who hadn't yet figured it out, and now they get to learn it the easy way. even for the players who already had thought deeply about it, having the forum discuss it and attack assumptions and create indifference equations is likely to provide at least a little value added. i would guess that most people had not come up with the easy to calculate little formula described above, even if they had a good feel for the concept:

#LosingCards/#ScareCards > 1 - ExpectedWonOnScare/StackRemaining

but when those little theory posts get insulted as being too trivial for HSNL, posters will be discouraged from making new threads. and i think most people here would benefit from more threads like that, even if the concepts discussed in most of them are already obvious to you, because every once in a while there will be something discussed that everyone else already knew but that you had just never thought of.