[Dennisa]

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So as to not hijack the thread about the clock I pulled this out.
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To be quite honest, too much time is wasted playing B&M with staredowns. If you had a minute to decide, I dont see why needing one more minute would be quite enough time. Before going to b&m, the most time for a decision with stars with the additional 40 second clock. tilt and party gave no extra time and they spread 5K games. So bottom line, I dont see anything wrong with calling a clock after 60 seconds.

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This line of thinking causes a lot of problems these days. This is an online player. Takes how they do things online and decides they should apply to B&M. B&M cardrooms existed long before the internet and have their own established customs. To suggest they should change to be like online is at the root of a lot of problems the older players ahve with the younger players.

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How many times do you really think a player needs more than 60 seconds to make a decision? After having a night to sleep on this I stand by my thinking. Does the older play tip a buck per minute for staredowns, especially if they fold? I actually feel worse for the dealer in the box during these 5 minute ordeals. FWIW, I do not deal, I play in the LA limited buy in games, so stack sizes relative to blinds are far smaller, so this does taint my viewpoint, but I see these 2-3 minute staredowns for 60BB pots in NL and just go insane.