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Old 03-08-2007, 05:50 PM
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Default Re: Copyrights and patents

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All thinking being have ideas so in this way ideas are not unique. Some ideas are better or more desirable than others. Not everyone has better or more desirable ideas. This fact alone makes good ideas more scarce than generic ideas.

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No, it doesn't. Of course some ideas are better than others. But both types of ideas are non-scarce. I can share a bad idea as easily as a good one.

The fact that someone doesn't currently have an idea doesn't make it scarce, either. If it did, your arguement that good ideas are "more scarce" than bad ones would be shot, since there are plenty of bad ideas I'm unware of.

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Add to this the way the market treats ideas.

1. I have an idea that is unique.
2. I wish to market that idea.
3. I sell you the use of my idea for an agreed upon price and use.

[ note that: Ideas aren't milk or cars so I have to sell it in a different way than milk or cars.]

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That's because milk and cars are scarce and ideas are not.

Your "wish to market that idea" means nothing. An idea you think is marketable is not any more scarce than one you think is not marketable. And from a moral standpoint, your personal subjective opinion is meaningless; it gives you no license to engage in particular behavior, it lends your arguement no weight.

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Lets use my photography business rather than CDs I might make this easier. Say that Amce Widget Co. wants to make a new ad showcasing a unique widget. They contract with an ad agency to come up with a unique idea. The ad agency contracts with me to create a unique interpretation of this unique idea. ( note that although many people could supply this interpretation they will all be different or unique) The widget belongs to Acme, the ad idea belongs to the agency and the photo idea belongs to me. In the end we all contract with each other to make one whole. Now say that the XYZ Widget Co. Likes this idea and copys it a unique idea that did not exist in that form before has now been stolen along with the time and resources along with the creativity and ingenuity that create such scarce ideas.

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Again, all of this depends on what's in those contracts. It has nothing to do with scarcity. I can write a contract that allows my neighbor to smash my car, or I can write one that prohibits him from smashing his own car. These contractual agreements about behavior have nothing to do with the scarcity of cars.

Changing the words "rap song" to "photograph" doesn't improve your argument.

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