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Old 03-03-2007, 01:19 PM
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Default Re: Not raising Big pairs PF

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Playing live 2/4. 3/6 Almost every time I play now I see a few people who never ever raise with TT on up. I saw a lady yesterday not rasie PF with TT and she ended up winning the pot but because she didn't raise PF the pot never got that big. Same thing with some guy who had KK. He ended up winning a fair sized pot with his hand but it should have been twice the size as it was. Yea yea I know, most LHE players suck but these types of players are really hard to read at times because they never raise with big pairs. I guess you have to make a mental note on who plays this way at your table and bookmark it in your cranium.

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There are a lot of correct opinions in this thread, but not really any meat to the discussion.

The reason why AA should be raised preflop, even in a ten way pot, is because of pot equity considerations, and the only way to understand why is to run AA through pokerstove to check out the results. I selected several hands that had a good chance of running down AA while making sure that both other A's were taken so AA will not improve. I ran the results in a ten way pot, and I found that the worst preflop equity I could get with AA was about 28%, and I was trying to get it as low as possible by manually selecting the villains' holdings. Against 9 random hands, AA comes up with 30% equity pretty consistantly, so it is true that AA will lose MOST of the time in those spots.

However, the key here is that AA is only putting in 10% of the money preflop. So, what we have here is an overlay...a gambler's dream. If I'm only putting 10% of the money into a pot that I"m going to win 30% of the time, why should I hold back? I want to risk as much as possible.

Then, we need to consider this. The guy who limps with AA is saving the table a lot of bets in the long run.
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