[bkholdem]

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"So many people suffer losses in their lives/their families lives and rather than learning to get past it they want all these laws enacted to make themselves feel better. (mom killed by drunk driver so now person goes on a crucade to have the breatalizer thing for everyone). Rather than accept responsibility with managing their emotions about this tragedy they displace it onto society. Rinse and repeat with countless scenario's where accidents and other tragedies happen across the country."

How do you know they go on their "crucade" to make themselves feel better. I know two couples who have lost a child and they started foundations. Neither has done it to make themselves feel better, they are honestly trying to help other people avoid the problems their sons had. I suppose we all do everything to make ourselves feel better, so in that sense you're right. But you cheapen and demean people who have suffered losses.

If by freedom, you mean the freedom to drive drunk, that's not freeedom.

Anyway, I'm leaving this thread now, enjoyed the conversation.

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I cheapen nothing and do not condone drunk driving. Everyone suffers trageties, many people who do so do not take responsibility for the emotions they experience as a result and act out their pain by pushing an agenda on the public at large via the legislature. In doing so THEY cheapen and demean the freedoms of innocent citizens.

Meaning well, having good intentions means nothing. If a maniac murders their children becasue they need to save their soles before the devil gets them they have done a horrible thing... but they meant well? so what

If someone starts a foundation to educate people without pushing intrusive legislature and invite people to learn or leave alone per their choice that is another story.