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I think you can easily assume two different overcards are out there (and likely all three) in people's hands and probably an underpair.

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If this is live(you mentioned 2-4 B&M), this is much too narrow a range. More like, any 2 suited. Any A. Loose passives come in with all sorts of crap. Hell, this is too tight a range for 10-20.

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You wouldn't assume in this case that you're dealing with at least 2 overcards? The 3-better alone likely has two or an overpair. I'm not saying each player likely has an overcard or a decent hand, just that by playing against 4 other players I'm going to assume that I'm up against at least 2 overcards. Whether they're in hands like K4s, A2o, Q8o, whatever.K4, A2, Q8, whatever.