[SumZero]

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Sirio,

You seem to think very clearly and present your thoughts very well when dealing with this math problem and those numbers are very telling.

I have done things like this, though:

- I'm on the bus on the way home, and I look at my watch and whoa its 4:15pm on sunday. I call a friend and ask him to log on and play the first hour of the sunday tourneys for me until I get back.

- My friend gets deep in a tourney and says, "strass, come help me out". So I go over to his room and talk with him as he plays.

- Friend calls me up: "crap I'm deep in xyz tourney and have to go, can you play for xx%?"

- This happened once: "Yo strass, I can never win a double shootout on stars, they are rigged. I want to go to the bahamas." So, with him in the room, I played a shootout and got lucky and won him a seat to the WPT.

I'm curious how terrible these things are. I always felt like I haven't crossed the line, but maybe I have.
-Jason

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Depending on site those may or may not be cheating. On UB those are all cheating. On PS the first one may or may not be cheating (I think it probably is, but if you change first hour to first 15 minutes you may be clear) but the rest all are definitely cheating.

Above and beyond, even if it weren't cheating at the site in question my take before all this would be that the 3rd is unethical, the 2nd and 4th is borderline unethical, and the 1st is the closest to borderline ethical (the biggest problem with the first is I think online reads should count and if people at the table are fooled because you yourself change gears than that is one thing but if they are fooled because an account changes gears because people have switched who is playing the account or are fooled because they expect a good name player to have noticed and reacted to their table image but unknown to them the person playing the account has just switched and now doesn't realize what's gone on at the table then the switching players is a real harm). After being aware of the JJ issue I think that the slippery slope exists and I think it would be better to avoid the grey area and stick to unquestionably ethical behavior and not do any of the above even at sites where it is ambiguous if the above is cheating or not. Obviously, where it is unambiguous that this is cheating, you shouldn't do it at all either.