[John Kilduff]

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"well, it'd be nice if we could bring democracy to Iraq, but we can't."

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What part of this isn't true?

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I think he means the "we could bring" part. Although the statement is technically true, it seems to infer that it we could bring democracy if there wasn't something wrong with the people of Iraq, rather than inferring that we could never bring democracy to them because that's not how democracy works.

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Just a sidenote: there doesn't have to be anything wrong with a Middle Eastern people if they aren't culturally amenable to democracy, just as there doesn't have to be anything wrong with the Canadian people if they aren't culturally amenable to Shari'a law. So Iron's statement might indeed suggest that there is some inherent reason the Iraqis won't genuinely adopt democracy, but that is not a disparagement or a suggestion that there is something "wrong" with the Iraqi people, because democratic ideals are simply not seen as a virtue in many parts of the world.

As far as the difficulties of bringing democracy to a country from the outside: it does appear that the Neo-Cons miscalculated slightly [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]